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Supreme Court wants US input on whether ISPs should be liable for users' piracy (arstechnica.com)
14 points by notamy 2 hours ago | hide | past | web | 8 comments | favorite





No, ISP’s are common carriers. You don’t go after the telephone company because someone coordinated a murder over the phone line. Why the hell would an ISP have any responsibility of what their users do?

I agree though not for the same reasons.

Copyright law lacks the authority to deprive people of their constitutional rights.

Those rights would inevitably be violated as many bureaucratic functions of government require internet access, and not responding is not an option. It would also act to weaken the courts by setting the stage for further devolution of "rule of law" to "rule by law".


So what would that mean in practice? ISP's would buy into some stupid "great firewall" thing built by, say, McKinsey, that works in the most obvious cases, so they can claim "they're doing their part"?

Only if gun manufacturers are liable for murders.

Making ISPs liable for users' piracy is transparently transferring the costs of policing "Intellectual Property" to ISPs, and at the same time, making it easy for "Intellectual Property" owners to sue for damages - an ISP has a fixed address, legal counsel, and deeper pockets than most teenagers.

End users should be liable, and ISPs should not be required to give user information to claimed copyright holders or forward notices.

Find my address and serve me yourselves you money grubbing internet vigilantes. Good luck.


This is just bad law. It opens up culpability in all manner of supply lines. Are water companies required to detect and report leaks? No, that responsibility falls to the consumer. The water company does profit, (as does Cox but not disproportionately) yet the water company still has no responsibility to detect or report leaks.

Supreme Court is full of fascists. Who gives a shit what they think.

> Who gives a shit what they think

Presumably, the hundreds of millions of people who are required to follow the laws they interpret under threat of imprisonment.




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