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Wordpress.org released Secure Custom Fields "PRO" version with ACF pro features (old.reddit.com)
31 points by ValentineC 2 hours ago | hide | past | web | 20 comments | favorite





The Secure Custom Fields extension page [1] states this:

  > Features
  > - Millions of Users
And also states this in the sidebar:

  > Active installations: Fewer than 10
That seems to support the accusations that this code is simply the nulled version of ACF's paid extension.

[1] https://wordpress.org/plugins/secure-custom-fields/


Ugg. I'd like to hope that Matt had hired better legal advice.

But that didn't happen. Matt this isn't going to end well for anyone. The first rule of holes is "STOP DIGGING" Can you put down the shovel for awhile and try talking to people?


Any recommended article/link to get the backstory on this situation?

This article is the canonical recap of what's happened:

- https://joshcollinsworth.com/blog/fire-matt


"Matt Mullenweg is showing the world that he’s one of the pettiest CEOs out there."

https://slate.com/technology/2024/10/wordpress-wpengine-matt...


Thanks.


Isn't this theft ?

Morally, kind of.

Legally, even taking the whole "copyright infringement equals theft" attitude at face value, it's not, because WordPress is GPL and GPL explicitly forbids adding new restrictive terms to the license, and also forbids combining it with more restrictively licensed code. In fact, in the past, Automattic did to Envato what they did to WP Engine specifically because Envato had taken the position that nulled plugins are infringing.

Of course, Automattic is now suing Festingervault for hosting nulled plugins, because Matt Mullenweg doesn't have principles, he has emotions.


Legalities aside, isn't this the end game for most profit driven companies? Isn't Matt just doing his job here, trying to drive an increase in revenue?

I'm not saying I like it, but, ethics aside (and lets not play dumb here, when do ethics drive business, unless it affects profit), I'm struggling to understand all the outrage over his actions?


But the legalities are the important part of this. You may as well say "Legalities aside, robbing your competitors at gunpoint is a good idea, if unethical". He's essentially setting up a system where if you ever make too much money off of his project, he's very willing to extort you and do plenty of unethical and likely illegal things to you. That's extremely important to the considerations of companies who may be interested in going into business with Wordpress.

Not behaving in such a way that will cause people to avoid you in the future isn't about ethics. It's about reputation.

It will be interesting when Matt changes his story yet again and issues yet another non-apology.

At this point I'm honestly surprised there are not criminal charges. Just blatantly stealing another business's property/storefront, and then threatening to do the same to other businesses is a shockingly brazen thing to do.


What exactly was stolen?

> Just blatantly stealing another business's (WP Engine) property/storefront

Context: WP Engine is controlled by Silver Lake, a private equity firm with $102 billion in assets under management


Addl. Context: Matt Mullenweg was invested in WP Engine before Silver Lake bought him out.

Your statement is both true and not at all relevant to the parent comment.

It’s just whatever for most people using Wordpress is the most practical thing and who cares about wpengine.

Do you not think the endgame of this is to funnel everyone to Automattic and then raise the rates now that he's exerted a monopoly over Wordpress hosting? Because at this point, I don't see what other exist he has here. This is pure "I own all of Wordpress and it's no longer open source and I can charge anything I want" or he's going to be bankrupted by the lawsuits.

Quite the broad paint brush. Many of us will look at a train going off of the rails and make different travel plans.



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