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Teslas Are Involved in More Fatal Accidents Than Any Other Brand, Study Finds (gizmodo.com)
30 points by doener 2 hours ago | hide | past | web | 10 comments | favorite





As expected – It’s not a vehicle design issue. It’s the driver behaviour and driving conditions.

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“Most of these vehicles received excellent safety ratings, performing well in crash tests at the IIHS and NHTSA, so it’s not a vehicle design issue” [1]

“The models on this list likely reflect a combination of driver behavior and driving conditions, leading to increased crashes and fatalities.” [1]

- Karl Brauer, iSeeCars Executive Analyst

[1] The 23 Most Dangerous Cars On The Road

https://www.iseecars.com/most-dangerous-cars-study#v=2024


Discussion (297 points, 7 days ago, 442 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42150443

How is it the cars fault when the user switches on self driving mode?

Because the car has the feature? Also your bias is apparent, that you're not referring by it's advertised name - Full Self Driving


Here's the raw data of the top 10 models involved in fatal accidents according to the study.

  1  Hyundai Venue
  2  Chevrolet Corvette
  3  Mitsubishi Mirage
  4  Porsche 911
  5  Honda CR-V Hybrid
  6  Tesla Model Y
  7  Mitsubishi Mirage G4
  8  Buick Encore GX
  9  Kia Forte
  10  Buick Envision
This looks like the sort of data you'd expect to see if there was absolutely no correlation whatsoever between the class of vehicle and accident rates. And then the data was massaged to put Tesla in the headline because clickbait — and even after that massaging, Tesla was pretty much tied with Kia. So what have we learned from this data? Nothing. It's meaningless data. Might as well be random.

This is individual cars and in particular mostly heavy SUVs. But if you group this data by car brand, Hyundai has many smaller cars. But all Tesla’s are heavy (and fast!). So stop buying heavy/fast vehicles if you care about fatalities.

Or maybe it's not the type of car but the type of person who buys these cars :)

We're veering into the pew pew topic territory. It is the cars :)

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